Minutes November 07, 2007

CPACE Meeting Minutes

Date: November 7, 2007                                  Time: 3:30 p.m. - 5:30 p.m.

Location: Michigan State University,East Lansing MI

Next meeting: November 26, 2007                   Time: 2:30 p.m. -4:30 p.m.

Participants listed by group:

  • Michigan State University (MSU): Daina Briedis, Jon Sticklen, Mark Urban-Lurain, Claudia Vergara.
  • LansingCommunity College (LCC): Louise Paquette (Video).
  • Corporation for a Skilled Workforce (CSW): Cindee Dresen, Lisa Katz (Video), Jeannine La Prad.

General Agenda: (attachment 1)

  1. Orientation for use Adobe Connect video conference.
  2. Review minutes of September 22 meeting. There was no change in the minutes.
  3. Continue discussion on steering committee (SC).

-        Jeannine: It is important to define the categories for the people we want in the SC.

-        Jon: we need people with managing expertise but also people with technical eng. expertise.

-        Daina: The potential list of candidates could be reviewed by people in the department(s) who have connections with industries for example, chairs of the different departments. Faculty members (us) can tackle this task.

-        Other people to consider are MSU advisory board members, employment recruiters.

-        Jon: The effort to contact the different departments has been started; it was halted because we need to be clear and unified about our message.

-        There was a lengthy discussion about the issue of continuity of the SC. Do we need to change the SC as the project progresses? Jeannine sees the need of different people at different stages of the project. Another possibility is to have a SC and additional subcommittees (action groups).

-        Mark: It is important that the SC has continuity; looking at the time line (see previous minutes) we can see the SC as the responsible party for most of the expected outcomes during the duration of the project.

-        Mark: Sees the SC as being populated with people who have real stakes in the outcome of the project; well connected people across their business sector, top level functionaries that have a clear understanding and vision of the project's intent. Their connections are important to direct us to additional people that would be informally addressed and asked to collaborate with the project for more specifics tasks (equivalent to the action group we were discussing before).

-        Mark: The establishment of the SC and the working network is a fundamental part of the proof of concept as this type of strategy has not been implemented before in an industry-academy setting. On the other hand we do not have money to be hiring a lot of people to formally participate in the project.

-        Lisa: We could have a core number of 12 individuals in the SC but in reality include 16-18 as contingency.

Issue: Strategies to populate the list of SC and stakeholders:

-        Lisa: We need to target key associations that will help with the distribution of surveys.

-        We discuss the excel document that Lisa sent (see attachment 2). The document has 5 categories; examples are academia, professional societies, and different industries.

-        The document will evolve as we go on. We can start with the different categories to identify people. The associations and professional societies can connect us to members and the industries can connect us to peers and technical expertise base.

-        CSW will internally circulate a list of potential candidates the idea is that other people with different networks will suggest additional members.

-        Louise will connect with her team.

-         MSU will connect with different Eng.Departments.

-        We need a set of talking points to approach the putative SC members. Need to be clear about the purpose of SC and advisory group.

Issue: Connections with other academic institutions:

-        Jeannine: Does LCC networks with other Community Colleges?

-        Louise: Not really. If we do, it is an informal networking and more at the departmental level.

-        Jeannine: Would be interesting/important to think about other academic institutions with Eng. Programs that are doing something that connects with what we want to do. Discussion about Tom Crampton and Mott community College (attachment 3info about Tom provided by Lisa Nov 7, 2007).

-        Mark: Academics will be engaged for the second part of the project; once we are done with the process part and we have a better understanding about the things that impact curriculum change. Then it is important to connect with other academic institutions.

-        Jeannine: Investigate the engagement strategies that the advisory committees in the different departments use. Do they have data about the employer's needs assessment? What kind of surveys do they have?

Additional issues:

-        There was a side discussion with Tom (he joined over the phone) about the results from a previous meeting with Chris Knap (Mark has details).

-        Neeraj met with the CE visiting board to talk about our project and ask about how to get members to participate (attachment 4).

-        Discussion about an additional meeting. The meeting will include Gary Yakimov; the discussion points can be reviewed in the e-mail that Cindee sent on October 31, 2007 (attachment 5).

-        Daina already contacted the boards of ChE and BSE. The response was not very enthusiastic Daina will re-initiate contact.

Action items * MSU/ LCC: Contact the Eng departments to get a sense of the engagement strategies that the advisory committees use. Needs assessment data for employers. Assignments as follows:

Jon: CS and EE. Also contact Lione about App Eng.

Daina: ChE and BSE. Re-initiate contact.

Neeraj: CE and ME

Louise: LCC.

  • CSW: Draft a set of talking points to approach the putative SC members. Need to be clear about the purpose of SC and advisory group.

Important outcomes (points were everyone "seems" to agree) and alignment to project milestones:

Project milestone: Convene a SC.                 

Partial outcome/work plan:

-        The working group agreed that Lisa's document containing target groups and contact information is a good starting point to identify SC members.

-        Characteristics of SC members: Clear understanding and vision of the project's intent, well connected across their business sector, highly motivated.

-        There will be a core SC (12-16 members). These individuals will be part of the project long term (continuity).

-        Additional subcommittees will be contacted informally for specific needs/ issues, with the advice of SC members.


Next meeting: Monday November 26, 2007                 Time: 2:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m.

Location: Michigan State University, East Lansing MI